Tuesday, September 7, 2010

What would you do? #174 - Aces up facing HUGE overbet shove

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

BTN: $90.00
SB: $90.40
BB: $101.50
UTG: $117.90
UTG+1: $124.50
UTG+2: $127.50 - 47/20/ 67% steal / 0% 3bet / 5.0 AF / 15 hands
MP1: $72.50
Hero (MP2): $199.75
CO: $101.55

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP2 with Jh Ac
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $3.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds
Not normally a call in this position, but this guy has been very active in limited hands.

Flop: ($12.00) Jc Kd Qc (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $7, CO folds, UTG+2 raises to $17, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($46.00) Ah (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($46.00) 7s (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $107 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero ???

Hero folds
I have no idea what to do here.  Any help?  I don't even know what to say here.  Am I making more of this than it actually is?

Final Pot: $46.00
UTG+2 wins $43.70
(Rake: $2.30)


  1. Fold is probably best here even if he has been active in the few hands he has been in, not enough of a sample size to know though. As you said, speculative call pre flop and on flop I would just fold to c/r.

  2. I hate two pair.

    his line doesn't make much sense, that's for sure. With my luck, I would call to try and snap off a bluff and he would show T9o for the straight, or 77.

    You should be able to find better spots than this one, or at least see a few more hands to get a sense what he's doing.

  3. It's just such a weird spot. Obviously, a Ten takes down the pot; did he flop a straight? It's all around such a weird spot to shove. I'm totally at a loss.

  4. I dont like your flop line either..c/f is std in 3 way pot. This flop smashes a preflop raising and preflop calling range IMO. As played rivre is std fold. THough I agree his line is bizarre.

  5. one out of two are probably true:
    a) he's a reg making an overbet shove for value, trying to represent a fishy bet. it only has to work like 20% of the time to be more profitable than a regular sized bet (which you wouldn't call anyway, so the threshold would be even lower most of the time)
    b) he's really a fish and a call isn't profitable - i find it they are really holding a T more than 50% of the time (and a fish has any T in his flop calling range).

  6. Based on the prior HH, I erred on the side of fish. I agree that they're showing up with a Ten a good amount of time, and given his limited history, Tx is certainly in his raising range (i.e. semi-bluff check/raising JT,KT,QT.

    The part the has me in question is I feel like donkey could be doing this equally with KQ,KJ,QJ.

  7. I just don't know how you found yourself in such a bad spot. Bet/calling such a wet flop w/ bottom pair!!!!! What are you really ahead of that is raising here? J10? That's about it.


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