Thursday, July 1, 2010

What would you do? #130 - Tons of pre-flop action in the blinds & CO

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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Hero (SB): $50.75
BB: $54.10 - 13 / 12 / 50% steal / 3.5% 3bet / 3.8 Aggression Factor / 254 hands
UTG: $22.15
UTG+1: $59.45
MP1: $63.25
MP2: $23.50
CO: $50.00 - 34 / 26 / 57% steal / 6.3% 3bet / 38 hands
BTN: $134.60

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with Tc Th
4 folds, CO raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, BB raises to $14, CO requests TIME, 1 fold, Hero ???
What range are you assigning BB? If you are folding, what is the minimum hand you call with? AK? JJ?

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Hero requests TIME, 1 fold
I evaluated this hand as either a steal (CO) vs. my re-steal vs. BB getting crafty and re-re-stealing, OR BB waking up with an actual hand which he likes *A LOT*. Since BB is not off-the-charts aggro with 3bets, and he's not off-the-charts aggro PF in the first palce (13/12), I have to give him credit for a hand with his 4bet. Moreover, at this point, I have $5 invested in this hand.

Do I really want to go all the way (which is what BB's 4bet indicates) with a vulnerable pair of tens, where, *at best*, I'm likely flipping a coin and not going to get value post-flop if an all undercard comes, or I'll be suckered in for a bet being behind the whole way? Nah. Nest hand, please.

Final Pot: $11.50
BB wins $11.50


  1. fun to get all "level-y" here (HE thinks that I'M stealing wide, so HE'S restealing wide, etc), but I think this is a hand. This guy is pretty tight overall, and his 3 bet percentage appears to be premiums only. This is a FOUR bet. Bleah.

    I probably go with QQ+ only.

  2. I also would have folded. It seems at best you would be flipping. Like you say, with a minimum amount invested, I think you can wait.

  3. I like the fold, but I also flat TT here most of the time. You can get so much more value here in a single raised pot.

  4. @stranglylucid: The problem with flatting TT for $14 is that you're committing 30% of your effective stack to see a flop which you most likely will check fold (50/50 chance an overcard comes on the flop), or will have no idea whether you're ahead or behind overall. Moreover, being in the SB, you're in a terrible position to see that flop as the first to act for later streets.

  5. I meant that I flat instead of 3 bet.

  6. @stranglylucid: I understand what you're saying as far as instead of being the 3bettor, I should flat, but then BB is getting mostly the right odds to call a lot of hands at a 33% discount (he already has a BB in there). Moreover, I am giving the CO a "free" look at the flop, while I'm sure my TT is far ahead of his range... at best we're 70/30 and at worst we're 50/50. The problem with this whole hand is BB showing up with something and 4betting me.

    I try to mix in flatting from the blinds and 3betting, to try to discourage the BTN/CO positions from stealing. I tend to want them to fear me when they're thinking about making moves on my blinds. You've no doubt seen some of my squeezes; I think posting a decent 3bet % is critical to getting paid off on your QQ+ hands (i.e. if you're only 3betting QQ+, then it's pretty clear to your opponent that when you 3bet, you have a very specific range).


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