Thursday, November 12, 2009

What would you do? #22

Villain is a 17 / 5 @ 41 hands w/ Infinite aggressive factor.

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
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BB: $10.00
UTG: $11.00
UTG+1: $47.75
UTG+2: $10.00
Hero (MP1): $128.95
MP2: $50.75
CO: $11.00
BTN: $72.55
SB: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP1 with Ts Td
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25) 9h 2s 5c (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $2.75, UTG+1 raises to $5.50, Hero calls $2.75

Turn: ($16.25) 3c (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $16.25, Hero ???
Assume a call here means you're playing for stacks. Do you fold here? Do you fold the flop? Raise?

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Hero calls $16.25

River: ($48.75) Ad (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $23.75 all in, Hero calls $23.75

Final Pot: $96.25
UTG+1 shows 9s 9d (three of a kind, Nines)
Hero mucks Ts Td
UTG+1 wins $93.25
(Rake: $3.00)


  1. Yep, probably playing for stacks here; but I would have re-raised on flop. Obviously, the aggression factor means nothing here. Min raise followed by a pot sized bet. I think I am going for stacks.

  2. There are three types of hands that this line usually indicates:

    1) Semi-bluff. This board is most likely only going to bring gutshots [34, 67, 78] or two overs, thus you can rule out monster/combo draws. I'd rule out pretty much all semi-bluffs from a 17/5's range here. Especially given the fact that he limp-called OOP and C/R the flop OOP.

    2) Overplaying an inferior hand. As much as I hate over-valuing Aggression Factor, it's hard to dismiss that this player could potentially be very aggressive with a hand like 9-10 or 9-A here. Would he essentially make the same raise with 9-10 or 9-A? Truth be told he may since he knows you're c-betting often enough for this to be a proftable play. But then again is this player really limp calling a 4.5x with A9 or 9-10 from UTG+1 with no other callers behind? I suppose it could be at the bottom of his range...

    3) Getting value out of your inferior hands. You'll see this a lot where people min-check-raise with the effective nuts b/c they really don't know any other way to get value out of their hand. WillyWonka makes a very valid point that a stack-off on the flop is logical, but you most likely have no way of getting off your hand if you 4-bet him. If the villain was playing a stack as deep as yours, I think you can easily 4-bet fold the flop, which will save you a lot of money here in the long-run.


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