Monday, August 16, 2010

What would you do? #162 - Is JJ or TT ever good here?

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

UTG: $63.85
UTG+1: $50.00
UTG+2: $38.10 - 16/2 / 20% steal / 0% 3bet / 7.5AF / 100% cbet flop / 101 hands
MP1: $48.25
MP2: $84.80 - 10/7 / 18% steal / 3.1% 3bet / 1.8AF / 85% cbet flop / 794 hands
CO: $63.55
BTN: $49.50
SB: $15.75
Hero (BB): $108.65 - I'm a 28/23 / 53% steal / 6.7% 3bet / 2.2AF / 111 hands at this table, though against MP2 (who is a reg), I have a lot of history.

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Jc Js
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $1.50, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $5, 3 folds, Hero calls $4.50, UTG+2 calls $3.50
See?  Similar pattern for both JJ & QQ.  Raise and then flat.  Too good of hands to fold outright and not quite good enough to overshove.

Flop: ($15.25) 7c 8c 6s (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $10, MP2 requests TIME, MP2 calls $10, Hero folds
Is JJ ever good against a 10/7 who 3bets 3.1% of the time?  Easy fold?  If not, what are you doing on the turn bet of $24 which is aligning stacks?

Turn: ($35.25) 2h (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets $24, UTG+2 folds

Final Pot: $35.25
MP2 wins $33.50
(Rake: $1.75)

And then, same opponent, different table (18 hands later):
Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

MP: $67.90 - Same 10/7 / 17% steal / 3.3% 3bet / 1.8 AF / 85% cbet flop / 812 hands
CO: $53.15
BTN: $18.05
Hero (SB): $80.80 - We have 812 hands of history; my immediate table stats don't make a difference here
BB: $18.50
UTG: $45.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with Th Tc
1 fold, MP raises to $2.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($8.00) 2c 6d 8s (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $5.50, BTN folds, Hero raises to $16, MP requests TIME, MP raises to $65.40 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
Again!  Is this guy just messing with me or does he have the goods?  I think he's a German dude.  He's definitely a reg.: m a x _pol o nez (no spaces).

Final Pot: $40.00
MP wins $38.00
(Rake: $2.00)

3 comments:

  1. I think they're both good folds. The first one is a no-brainer.

    The second gives me one second's pause only because he raised 5x, which is often a good hand that someone doesn't want to play postflop, but JJ is certainly the banner hand in that category, and it's still ahead of TT, ldo.

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  2. I would fold the JJ pre, we are OOP against a very tight PFR and 3bettor. Even when we're kinda deep I think it's still a fold.

    Also I really don't like the flop raise with TT, he's a nit so he's never continuing with a worse hand and he's probably not folding a better hand.

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  3. Are these recent stats? Have you checked to see if they still apply?

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