I played a little live poker last night; I've been trying to get my old home game back together in good order. I wrote about it last week, though this week, we had around 9 players (instead of the 12 from last week). Most of the players at the home game are fairly straight-forward, but there was one noob last night, who would call all-ins (PRE FLOP NO LESS) with any Ace; A4o was good for a call of a $30 shove... He simply would not fold his Ace-rags... Whatever... He fits the mold perfectly - he's my wife's cousin; a Moroccan Jew who would typify the Israeli mindset (or, I guess, Middle Eastern mindset) of "I love to GAMBOOOL it up!!!!" Picture Sammy Farha without Sammy Farha's knowledge of math and outs. It would be between him and another crazian from last week, whose game I don't necessarily respect, but is capable of strong moves which he knows are fairly un-callable. For now, let's call crazian "Spew monkey," because I have no doubt that in my recap of future home games, he'll be a fixture.
A little description of Spew Monkey prior to my "What would you do?": Spew monkey, if I were to put it into online terms, is a 60 VPIP / 40 PFR - with an off-the-chart aggression factor. He makes reasonably good reads where he picks on weak players holding marginal cards, and makes bets large enough, as I described before, which he knows the weaker players won't call. He will stack off without a second thought on a top-top hand, and will second-think himself, but won't be afraid to make a stack off call with TP no kicker. In fact, a few hands prior, he would stack off to my Aces on a 2 6 T (two-tone) board with JTs (non-drawing), where he raised pre-flop, out of position, and I 3bet him to $7.50. He check / raised my flop lead to $25 (I led for $10 and I shipped the effective remaining stack sizes of $50, full knowing that he was capable of this play with any top pair, overpair, or flush draw. He essentially instantly called my shove, and sucked out on the turn with a Jack. Given the prior hand, he know sits stuck for ~$50 (he had re-bought approx. 3 times, and now sits on $100).
This hand brings up a question though: I'm the dealer, and I accidentally flipped UTG's card while dealing, exposing the Ad. As is standard procedure in our game, we use the exposed card as the flop burn card and re-deal the would-be burn card as the replacement. I'm sitting on the button, facing a raise from Spew Monkey, holding AA (obviously non-diamond :-) ). Given the exposed card, I have to 3bet there, right? I should consider my hand into a made hand at this point, correct? If I hit the 1 remaining out, bonus, but I have to 3bet here; I'm not slow playing, right? If the same situation is with 22-TT, etc., I'm likely folding the raise, but with AA, there's a lot of hands that I beat on the flop (as evidenced) that I have to play it the same, exposed card or not, right?
Anyway, now onto the WWYD:
I'm in the middle position, sitting on a stack of approx. $60. Spew Monkey has me covered (~$80-90; he bled away a few chips after the suckout to crazian plays), and waanabe Farha has us both covered with ~$150 (he'd been hitting improbable Aces and 2 pairs all night by getting rewarded by the deck, but those Middle Eastern types *ALWAYS* have the luck of Allah / God / Buddha (for the Far Eastern types) it seems!!! Mental note: I need to become more religious, because I want the F*ING LUCK!!! Anyway, back to the hand... Spew Monkey is UTG and raises to $3, a fairly standard aggro-move for him. Farha calls the $3; he's a calling station who VPIPs about 97, and PFRs about 10. I call with my KTo - normally not a call for me in my position with 5 more players to act, but given my position over the big stack / volatile players, I'm trying to get into the action. Everyone else folds and we got to a flop 3-way. Flop comes K 5 3 rainbow. Spew monkey checks, Farha checks, and I check (I feel like I lead this flop and I will either get hammered on with a check / raise, or I will lose my customers because they missed entirely). Turn puts a J on the board and puts a two-flush draw out there. Checks around to me and I [finally] lead for something like $8 (into a $10 pot). Both players call. River is a 3-flushing Ten, giving me two pair, and completing an AQ straight and a back-doored flush - a possible hand for either player to be calling without pot odds, but perhaps suspecting implied odds (?); neither of them really care about mathematics. Checks around to me again - I'm looking at a ~$34 pot, and I want value. I have seen both players check / call 2 streets - which leads me to believe that they are weak. I settle on 1/3 pot; not wanting to commit a HUGE amount, but also not wanting to scare my customers away. I want them to feel comfortable with the call because they've called with Ace high for a lot more, but they know the style in which I play - TAG - and usually give me credit for a hand. So it gets back to Spew Monkey, who comes over the top for a raise to $50 straight. I am not great with tells, but I am familiar with bet sizing and patterns and here are the prior facts: As mentioned, he's stuck for a buy-in, and looking to "get even!" as stated in prior action. I've never seen him check raise big on the river, but he is well capable of this type of move on other streets. He is a bully. Even though he was happy with the results of the JT hand described prior, I feel like he's tilting a little bit because he knows he misread me. Oh yeah, Farha folds, and I'm left facing a $40 raise; the remainder of my stack. Are you making the call?
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EDIT: Let the record show that my wife's cousin read this and was a little miffed that I compared him to a Sammy Farha and not the Israeli "Eli... forget his last name not some stupid arab". LOL!
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