Monday, June 28, 2010

What would you do? #128 - Four flush, facing decent river "value" bet

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $51.20
UTG+2: $62.75
MP1: $74.25 - 27/16 / 0% steal / 5% 3bet / 1.3 AF / 105 hands
MP2: $47.00
CO: $31.00
BTN: $30.20
SB: $19.50
Hero (BB): $53.10
UTG: $42.20

CO posts a big blind ($0.50)

Pre Flop: ($1.25) Hero is BB with 2d Jd
3 folds, MP1 raises to $1.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1
Probably should have not made this call, but go with it for the time being...

Flop: ($5.25) Tc 4c 2h (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, BTN bets $1, Hero raises to $4.50, MP1 calls $4.50, BTN folds

Turn: ($15.25) Jc (2 players)
Hero bets $5.75, MP1 calls $5.75

River: ($26.75) 6c (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $9, Hero ???
Keep in mind he's laying me 3:1 on the river call here.

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Is this ever a money-making play to call?  Clearly, given the results, I could have raised him off his hand possibly, but I imagine if I lead, I'm going to have to lead with what amounts to an all-in - and even then, is the typical player who turned a 3 flush laying down his counterfeited 4 flush?

I just couldn't resist calling $9 into $27... 

Hero calls $9

Final Pot: $44.75
MP1 shows 7c 8c (a flush, Jack high)
Hero mucks 2d Jd
MP1 wins $42.55
(Rake: $2.20)


  1. i'm not trying to push people off of a flush, that seems like folly to me.

    if I call here, it's not for the purpose of winning the hand, it's more for metagame purposes - to show someone I'm loose enough to play J2s. Then I'll be tightening up my range vs. this player significantly.

  2. I had a similar hand last night, with the same result... I'll post it later this week or next. I'm starting to put together a pattern here [perhaps] where small bets on a 4 flush are "stabs," which probably can't afford to be raised. It's a dangerous game, though, counting on the guy to fold his counterfeited 4 flush...

    With regard to metagame, unless I'm playing a reg, I really don't place much importance in that. I'm going to see this guy for 150-180 hands and likely will never see him again. If I do, he won't remember me, nor I him.


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