Wednesday, September 2, 2009

What would you do? #2 - Two for the price of one

I ran into two conundrums last night, while playing. Two completely separate hands with the same result (for me). Perhaps I'm being too nitty here, but here goes:

Background: I recently sat down at this table. In *VERY* limited history, UTG+1 is 20/10/inf @ 10 hands.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
The Official Hand History Converter

MP1: $9.59
MP2: $17.70
CO: $3.40
BTN: $31.86
SB: $33.40
BB: $1.93
Hero (UTG): $30.95
UTG+1: $27.85
UTG+2: $10.82

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with As Kh
Hero raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.75, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($3.35) Jh Kd 2d (4 players)
Hero bets $1.75, UTG+1 raises to $5.17, MP2 folds, BTN folds, Hero calls $3.42
Ok. So what have I represented by raising PF, and leading on the flop? I've repped strength, and probably should have folded the re-raise. But WTF? I have AK! TPTK!

Turn: ($13.69) Tc (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $13.69, Hero folds
At this point, I have to imagine I'm beat here. He's either got KJ, AQdd, or a set. If he has AQdd, he's an idiot. If he has air, good bluff, sir. I can't call here with TPTK, with so many hands out there that beat me. What am I beating here? AJ (is he raising on the flop with that?), KQ (potentially raising the flop, but not so much since I led - and CERTAINLY not leading with a pot turn bet). My AK always runs so bad.

Final Pot: $13.69
UTG+1 wins $13.01
(Rake: $0.68)

Background: BTN had just won a major pot, and had taken down a few "significant" pots, to get himself to $64 from a starting stack of $25. He's been quite active to date, particularly with post flop action. BTN is 39/7/2.6 @ 74 hands.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
The Official Hand History Converter

BTN: $64.64
SB: $20.77
BB: $25.70
UTG: $27.23
UTG+1: $18.07
UTG+2: $8.65
MP1: $14.81
Hero (MP2): $26.77
CO: $15.41

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP2 with Qc Qh
3 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BTN calls $1, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.75
Not liking this already - too many callers.

Flop: ($4.25) 6s 5d 7s (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets $0.25, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $3, SB folds, MP1 folds
This is a huge drawing board. I'm not going to let MP1 take control for .25. I probably stupidly raise it up, but I'm not going to shake off AKss or KQss, Ks9s, or any spades with overcards. I probably should have played this hand more passively, because it would have been easier to let it go with less money in the pot. By my raise on the flop, I want to take it down right then & there.

Turn: ($10.50) Kh (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BTN raises to $9.25, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
BTN has been too quiet this hand. I think he has a spade draw, with the K. I can't call a raise here. It sucked to give up on this pot, but with a call, I'm committed; 50% of my stack is in the middle.

I played this hand very weakly; I am not proud of this play. In retrospect, I should have raised a lot more on the flop, or called. I gave a spade draw + overs odds on drawing out on me: $3 into $4.50 ($3 to call $7.50 = 40%) with 15 outs (~45% odds) is setting myself up for failure.

Final Pot: $18.50
BTN wins $17.58
(Rake: $0.92)

What do you think? Am I a total nit? Would you be calling / raising all in, or folding like I did as a weak tight monkey? I think the first hand was a good fold, but the second hand was poorly played all around.

1 comment:

  1. This first hand isn't a bad spot for a Bruechips Fade-n-Go

    The T isn't the best card, since AdQd and JdTd both pull ahead, but on the flip side, you pick up more straight outs, plus you could get a number of hands that are behind to call a big bet - hands like QT/JdQd/AdJd and other 2 diamond hands. So I would throw out a $13bet on the turn and call of if he shoves over.

    On the second hand, you're looking at such a wretched flop, and against so many opponents whose range it hits, that your only good option is to call, hope the board bricks out and nobody gets excited and throws a lot of chips in. It shouldn't be too hard to get away here.


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