Thursday, March 18, 2010

What would you do? #69 - Holding an overpair vs. a flop shove

From the Rush tables:

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official Hand History Converter

BTN: $67.90
SB: $52.05
BB: $38.75
UTG: $91.75
UTG+1: $55.20
UTG+2: $67.15
MP1: $52.00
Hero (MP2): $207.35
CO: $46.75

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP2 with Kc Ks
4 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 8c Js 2s (2 players)
Hero bets $3, CO raises to $6, Hero raises to $9, CO raises to $45 all in, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds
I think this is a correct fold; I'm fairly certain he hit a set of 8's or 2's. Anyone calling here?

Final Pot: $22.25
CO wins $21.15
(Rake: $1.10)


  1. Do you have stats on your opponent? I can't say what I'd do without stats.

    Assuming a pretty tight player, I'd probably fold there. It is kind of tough, since he min-raised and you raised so little that he could be shoving AJ, QQ for value. He could also be shoving a flush draw or straight draw (or a combo draw like a pair with flush draw).

    I really do not like your line though, specifically the min-three bet on the flop. It does nothing to protect your hand and gift-wraps him an opportunity to shove on you for maximum pressure.

    I personally would fold or make a substantial raise on the flop (or maybe call-fold). A lot of it depends on the player, although with rush, you probably don't have much more than stats on him.

  2. I don't have any read on the player. However, he flats, in position. I have to figure that if he's strong, he's RR'ing - i.e. TT+, as is common in Rush (3betting PF). His flatting range may include AJ, 22-99. Very certainly, he could be "slow playing" QQ as well. Do I really want to stack off with an overpair though, against his shove? I've committed 20% at this point. I have to give him credit for a strong made hand.


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