Friday, November 5, 2010

What would you do? #202 - Overbet for value

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Hand History Converter

UTG: $119.10
UTG+1: $53.60
UTG+2: $45.20
MP1: $62.55
MP2: $58.60
CO: $40.00
BTN: $129.20
Hero (SB): $112.95
BB: $51.85 - 13 / 8 / 1.6%3bet / 25% steal / 2.7 AF / 725 hands

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with Ts 9d
4 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

Flop: ($1.50) 8d Qc 6h (3 players)
Hero bets $1.25, BB calls $1.25, MP2 folds

Turn: ($4.00) 7s (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BB raises to $5.25, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $4.75
I think he pretty clearly has a set at this point. Set or two pair; I don't think he's folding either way.

River: ($24.00) Kd (2 players)
Hero requests TIME, Hero bets $101.20 all in, BB calls $40.10 all in
And I hit him with the overbet.

Final Pot: $104.20
Hero shows Ts 9d (a straight, Ten high)
BB mucks 8h 8s
Hero wins $101.20
(Rake: $3.00)


  1. Where do you find these mega fish?? I mean you 3b when you get there and then he c/c an overbet shove. Wow. NH.

  2. Nice job extracting his whole stack. When another player requests time and then makes a good-sized raise, does that mean anything? I noticed you requested time twice. Did you do it to make him think you had something to think about or to even out the times when you really do have to think?

  3. @Brian- I guess FT "owes" it to me since I got totally OWNED last month. Each and every decision hand last month was a critical decision. Last month was my first losing month, EVER.

    @Mojo- I honestly was thinking about optimal play. The first time, I was debating a 3bet. I didn't want to let him off the hook on the turn by flatting his raise. I thought about how I was getting stacks in on the river, but didn't see any way possible without putting in a third bet. I was also unsure of the strength of his hand on the turn, which is why I min 3bet. When he flats, he clearly has a strong hand, but not the nuts. He knows it, and I know it. His flat of my 3bet says that he wants to get to showdown because unless the board pairs, he doesn't have the nuts. On the river, the board misses and I'm still holding the nuts. I am still thinking: If he's going to call a $20-25 bet, he'll likely call a $40 bet as well. Therefore, I shove.

    One other note: since it's Rush poker, there isn't a heckuvalotta time that they give you in the standard action bank. I think calling time is fairly standard in Rush.

  4. Make it $17 on turn, then you won't have to overbet river

  5. @Happy - I agree in retrospect. At the time, though, I wasn't really sure of the strength of his hand. He 2.5x me, and I 2.5x him back. If he calls, I'm pretty sure he calls all river bets. I also want to give him an opportunity to overshove on me. However, I don't want to scare him off, and raising to $17 is a pretty hefty raise. Again, in retrospect, he's calling the $17 raise.


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