This post is a little out of order; this session happened about 3 weeks ago, prior to the last post (What would you do – A blatant violation of the rules).
I had a mostly uninteresting session last week; kinda
standard stuff: AA, KKx2, QQ, JJ – all cracked.
AA on my very first hand of the session and I paid off a flopped set for
$180 on top of my preflop raise of $20.
Not a good start. I didn’t show,
so I suppose I could have an image of loose aggressive with my immediate
stacking.
Anyway, a few hands later, I limp K6hh alongside 6
others. We see a 2 heart, 9 high flop; I
think it was something like 9 3 7 hh.
Facing an early position $10 bet, I call along with a host of others – 3
or 4. Seat 9, a youngish hoodie wearing
kid in the BB (going off a week-old memory here, so details are a bit fuzzy)
opts to check / raise to $45. Given the
money in the pot, I call again; not sure whether anyone else called the check /
raise, but now we’re heads up. Turn is a
6 and hoodie guy opens for his remaining $120 or so. I look at him; he looks very
uncomfortable. Clearly, the 6 helps me,
but my read is my 6’s are good – at least on the turn – so I make the call. Now I wish I could remember whether the 9 was
the 9h, because it makes a difference to the hand, but I definitely don’t. He is definitely not happy that I called,
confirming to me that my 6’s are good. The
river peels a blank – no clue what it was, but it wasn’t a heart. I wait for him to flip, and he motions for me
to flip first. I wait motionless, doing
nothing but stare at him. He starts to
flip, then decides to muck, conceding a $300+ pot to me without showing. I immediately muck my cards as the pot is
being shipped, and he storms off.
Wow. The table is puzzled, as am
I. To summarize: ye went broke on a
limped pot, with a semi-bluff (or maybe full bluff) into a handful of people,
and capped it off with not wanting to show at showdown even though he’s leaving
the table.
Now, I have no doubt my 6’s were good there, but I can’t
envision any time where I will concede a pot without showdown, especially when
I’m leaving the table if I lose. I’m not
keeping my opponents from future information because they won’t see me again
after this hand if I lose it. If I win
it (with Ace high, for example), I can opt to leave the table regardless the
result. I’m still scratching my head
about this one; JThh? He can’t have 56hh
because I had the 6h. 24hh? What hands are c/r’ing the flop and shoving a
heads up turn? Moving on…
The one interesting hand of the session involved a complete
noob. Although she claimed the last time
she played poker was in grade school, this young chick was somewhat aware of
hand strengths and aggression. I believe
that this was her first time playing poker in a casino (she almost folded 6’s
full on the river to a big bet, not realizing that she had a full house), but
had an extreme case of beginner’s luck.
She proceeded to get quad Aces (she had pocket Aces twice during our
session together), hit 2 or 3 boats, and always had a strong hand to go to
showdown. She simply amassed chips.
I find myself in mid position with KK in a $6 straddled and
3 limpers to my right. Action rolls to
me and I decide to raise to $40 to narrow ranges down to more predictable
cards. Well, that was a huge fail to say
the least; I get 5 callers including the noob.
The pot has around $240 and we see a flop of Q Q 7 ss. Action checks to the noob who gets real quiet. It should be noted that prior to that moment,
she’s been completely sociable – we’re all having a good time at the
table. Now, she’s dead silent. She puts out a $100 bet. Action is immediately to me. What do you do? $100 is a sizable bet for her, I have 2-3
players yet to act, and my KK is looking pretty marginal at the moment.
I thought for a bit and eventually came to the conclusion that
she’s not bluffing here; her physical tells of silence combined with the sizing of the bet
leads me to believe she hit a Q; I let the over pair go. I just can't imagine she's thinking to bluff in that spot. Everyone else folds and we’re on to the next
hand.
In retrospect, I feel like the silence is such a huge huge tell. Between Zachary Elwood's books and Mike Caro's older stuff, I feel like the silence, especially from a new player, is the instinct of not wanting to scare the prey. A basic instinct of a non-thinking / irregular / noob player is to get very quiet when they're going for value. It's the hunter instinct in all of us; we silently tiptoe through the forest in order to catch whatever it is we're after.
At the poker tables, situation dependent (i.e. playing against a more experienced player, trying to use a reverse tell, etc.), I've found consistency to be the best line of defense to counter any tells I may throw off. In other words, instead of acting silent when I have a big hand, I try to continue the same conversation I was having prior, or try to continue acting as I was acting. I'll occasionally stare down a more experienced player as a reverse tell of a strong means weak, but I find that rarely works; the more experienced players are able to make decisions in isolation, valuing their relative hand strengths regardless the tells they're receiving from another experienced player. Anyway, I hope this little diatribe helps you with your game.
Hey PM. How have the games been at the Shoe recently? I haven't been in over a year, but was thinking about maybe playing Saturday night.
ReplyDeletethe games are probably better here than at the shoe, u need a vacation down south. but if u do go to the shoe, check out the $1 minute massage for me. unless u are reluctant to get one if the massager isnt male.
DeleteEnjoy it! Even though I've been running bad there of late, the games are still very good.
Delete24hh?
ReplyDeleteNah, that's The Grump, and The Grump never loses.
It always seems to lose for me :-)
DeleteThe kid had A8hh !
ReplyDeleteWouldn't he think ace high has some showdown value? It wasn't obvious I was calling for value; I could have easily been on a draw too!
DeleteHe probably thought that you calling $45 and then calling $120 represented at least a pair...who knows.
DeleteDang. It would be nice to actually have choices nearby.
ReplyDelete