I took a 5 day weekend culminating in Memorial Day this past Monday. With no family plans (kids are in school), I decided to go & play in Baltimore on Thursday and Friday. Unfortunately, I was card dead for the huge majority of the time; I was fighting being in for a buy in until I finally hit a cooler against a kid who considers himself a pro. As played, I feel I could have gotten away from the hand; it likens back to the hand that played out a few weeks ago against the drunk kid who bet 2 buy ins on the river.
Again, this is against a self-titled pro:
1/3 - Deep stacked $800 effective stacks, I'm dealt AA in mid position, I raise to $20.
Called in 2-3 spots and we see a flop of Ad Kd 3s.
I lead for $25 and "pro" raises to $55. Note: pro hasn't gotten out of line since I've been at the table, quietly going about his business and not getting aggressive unless he shows down the nuts.
I size up the situation, realizing that he's never folding my next bet, so I raise to $165 - he snap calls. I put him on a set of 3's.
Turn is 2c - I lead for $300 and he raises all in for $565 remaining - I obviously snap call and he never shows his 3's.
River runs clean and I scoop a huge pot.
Next day, I'm playing during the day with $365 effective - I call a $15 raise with 4 4, as does an annoying woman to my left.
Flop comes K Q 6 and it checks through (I'm ready to check out if there's a bet).
Turn is a 4 putting out 2 spades and annoying woman leads for $45. I raise to $120 and she insta shoves. I call and am shown KK.
Nice no 3bet and nice flop check. I'm outplayed and I'm done for the second session in as many days :-(.
Episode 436: Jesse Fullen
1 week ago
if all he can put you on is AA/KK/AK, then he's behind 6 combos and ahead of 9. He could also put some royal combo draws in there. I think he's gotta go with it.
ReplyDeleteSets are just brutal. Just shrug and move on.
ReplyDeleteAgree with Matt...he can't really ever fold if he truly has 333.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be looking for reasons to fold sets 120BB deep at 1/3...standard
I'm absolutely not folding my set for 120BB deep (I consider that a cooler), but 200 BB deep or deeper? Yeah - I'm seriously considering folding if I'm him.
DeleteGiven our prior play (we've played together all night and he's never seen me get out of line for 50 or 100 BB - let alone 200 BB. and vice versa with him), he knows I'm solid and I know he's solid. If I'm giving so much action, it indicates I really like my hand, many times much more than a draw. As Matt pointed out above, though, there are more hands that have me on AK than AA / KK. However, having never gotten out of line, wouldn't I slow down quite a bit with a top two hand? Wouldn't I consider that my AK is up against a set... or against another AK?
If that makes either of our play exploitable, so be it - more power to the villain for realizing that I'm only calling off the very top of my range and he can put 200BB into a smaller 100BB pot to take me off my hand (i.e. my betting 100BB + calling 100BB in a 100BB pot). Bottom line: I think it's a big mistake to get it in 200BB deep with a bottom set when action dictates you're up against a better hand.
"I size up the situation, realizing that he's never folding my next bet, so I raise to $165 - he snap calls."
ReplyDeleteIf this is so, then the correct bet is to bet all in. If, however, this is a bit of hyperbole, then your raise of $110 more is fine.
Its semantics, but in this case, its a relevant one.
Yes - more of hyperbole than anything else; if my read is wrong, which it will be about 20% of the time (just made that number up), I want him calling off the bet and auto calling a large turn bet. If I shove, though, it's a huge overbet that I don't think will get called by flush draws and possibly even two pair hands - perhaps sets. Therefore, I keep it "reasonable" with a % pot bet < 100% rather.
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