Monday, January 20, 2014

Rare 4-way all-in... How did I hold up with my AA?

I'm figuring an AA vs. AA vs. KK vs. QQ type setup hand...

Surprisingly, I'm up against random pairs - 88, 55, QQ (maybe I understand, but given the action.... WTF?)

Somehow, I hold up though:

($ represent .001 BTC; roughly $20NL)
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: $21.84
BB: $3.20
Hero / UTG: $20.00
CO: $20.00
BTN: $43.19

Pre Flop: ($0.30)
Hero raises to $0.60, CO raises to $2.60, BTN calls $2.60, 1 fold, BB calls $2.40, Hero raises to $20.00 all in, CO calls $17.40 all in, BTN calls $17.40, BB calls $0.60 all in

Flop: ($63.30) 2d Ks 7s (4 players - 3 are all in)

Turn: ($63.30) 4c (4 players - 3 are all in)

River: ($63.30) 2h (4 players - 3 are all in)

Final Pot: $63.30
UTG wins $62.70
(Rake: $0.60)
Board [2d Ks 7s 4c 2h]

Seat 2: BB mucked [Qc Qd] -- Unkown
Seat 4: Hero collected (mɃ62.7) shows [As Ad]
Seat 5: CO mucked [8s 8h]  -- Aggro, loose
Seat 6: BTN mucked [5s 5c] --  Aggro, donkish (clearly)
Posted by The Poker Meister at 1/20/2014 08:00:00 AM
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12 comments:

  1. AceJanuary 22, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    Do you find it hard to play for small stakes online compared to live 2/5?

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    1. The Poker MeisterJanuary 22, 2014 at 3:17 PM

      I actually think the online small stakes is a fun warmup for the live 2/5. I think the thought processes of the online players are much the same as the live 2/5 players - so there isn't too much of a change from one to the other. If you asked about the 1/2 players, I'd say that the small stakes online community is light years ahead of the 1/2 live players - you can somewhat range the online players, where it's not altogether unheard of to see a live player playing a 100/0 (calling all raises and 3bets). My favorite live player limps and calls a large 3bet pot... I always chuckle inside when I see their hand was good enough to limp and also call.... oh... say... $45 preflop with $150 behind...

      Although you see that online sometimes, it is far less frequent as the online players get it that they're behind and committing 25% stacks with slim to no odds to draw out on the flop.

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    2. AceJanuary 23, 2014 at 2:16 PM

      I guess I didn't use the correct word in my question. "Hard" as in hard to be motivated to play small pots let's say $10-$50 while live it's $50-$200+ . I understand what you're saying about skill level though.

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    3. The Poker MeisterJanuary 23, 2014 at 3:44 PM

      Nah... The reality is if I'm 8-10 tabling between 10-50 NL, that's higher stakes than $200-$500. The way I think of it is that I have a reduced variance across 10 tables @ an average 20NL (a total of $200 in action) vs. 1 table of $200. It's challenging in a different way, but I'm equally motivated to do well - if not more motivated because the skill edge shines through so much more when you're playing 10 tables (again, because of the reduced variance), than when you're playing 1 table.

      Don't know if what I wrote makes any sense....

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    4. AceJanuary 23, 2014 at 5:53 PM

      OK, I did not know (remember) that you are 10 tabling. Skill > Luck, when you play more hands - Got it. Thanks

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    5. The Poker MeisterJanuary 23, 2014 at 5:59 PM

      Exactly! Skill > Luck when you can fit more hands in the same time span.

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  2. AnonymousJanuary 23, 2014 at 3:51 PM

    LDO question for you...do you call off with QQ like the BB did, knowing what you know about CO and BTN?

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    1. The Poker MeisterJanuary 23, 2014 at 4:09 PM

      It's really a tough spot... I'm assuming you mean if you're full stacked... Short stacked like that, this is an absolute call for $3.60 and only like $1 more. Full stacked, you're getting 3:1 on your money when you make the call, and I think you're better than 3:1 some of the time - it's a marginal losing call if someone always shows up with AA (you need 4:1 to call for an even money) so you're giving up 5% but it's a possible AK v AK v JJ - it can be justified like that. I think I make the call here against those LAGbots and if it's a cooler, I'm not getting my money in terribly bad with a -5% edge.

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  3. AnonymousJanuary 23, 2014 at 4:19 PM

    I like your thinking, but I think I nit-fold here, giving a lot of credit to you and the BTN for over-calling. In a tournament I definitely sigh-fold.

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    1. The Poker MeisterJanuary 23, 2014 at 4:42 PM

      These guys are more skilled than monkey button mashers, and this move was certainly surprising especially given the end results. However, folding JJ is really hard at this level / stakes against these types of stats-oriented players (i.e. 40+/30+ with a 15% 3bet). They're potentially so light all the time it's a really tough fold.

      In other words, this is not your father's Oldsmobile - we're not playing Tilt or Stars. These guys are overall way worse than your average donk at those 2 sites...

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  4. AnonymousJanuary 24, 2014 at 5:24 PM

    "I think the thought processes of the online players are much the same as the live 2/5 players"

    More hilariously unintentional comedy. Can you imagine some fish treating his opponents in live 2-5 the same way as 10 cent - 20 cent online button mashing? And then defending it later?

    Classique. Keep it up.

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    1. The Poker MeisterJanuary 24, 2014 at 6:26 PM

      Again, keep hiding behind the mask of anonymity - and moreover, not sharing any of your views. Good to keep nay say every line, bet or call, while not producing any thoughts worthy of merit...

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