Tuesday, January 3, 2023

The 'ole Zeebo trick

 File this one under "they never fold a full house," boys...

Admittedly, I shouldn't be arrogant about it, but this guy was just to big of a fish to not shove my quads on him.  However, the story goes as follows:

6-max $10NL, folds around to the fish BTN who decides to limp.  SB folds to me and I raise to $0.65, which the fish, as fish are known to do, calls.

Flop comes a beautiful AA9 rainbow.  Now, it's unlikely the fish is trapping, but it's even more unlikely he connected with this flop.  Therefore I opt to check, and it checks through.

Turn is a Kh putting a 2flush on the board.  I have to start getting some value for the hand, and he's not likely to pay off any hands unless he has a worse Ace (unlikely given that it'll be the case Ace, or the flop check will get him to pay off his Kx hands).  I delay cbet $0.95 into $1.55 and he snap calls.

River is the most beautiful Ac, giving me quads - the only better card would have been a random Kx or 9x in retrospect.  However, with quads, against this guy, I'm not just potting it and calling it a day...  no... this guy has a boat and he'll pay off.  Therefore I ship $8.30 into $3.45 and he pauses for a good 20 seconds before making the call and doubling me up.

Zeebo.  It's good.






3 comments:

  1. Ahhhh ... but the trick is getting quads in the first place. Recently in live poker action, I flopped a spade straight flush. The river gave the board three spades. I put out a value bet and was shocked to see my opponent raise me. I decided to wait forever and stare at him, then finally announced "all in." He insta-called and flipped over his rivered Ace-high flush. Not wanting to be a dick, I quickly turned over my cards so that he and the table could see my flopped straight flush. Sometimes poker can be a really fun game.

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    1. Very similar situation. In these situations, we shouldn't worry about losing value by overbetting the pot if we believe the opportunity to stack our opponent has merit. It's a simple formula which requires objective estimation: % opponent calls an all in * $$$ bet value. Compare the overbet shove factored $$$ to the "reasonable bet" factored value and most of the time, you should go with the greater of the two.

      In the example above, I estimated around 40% chance he calls $8.30 and 75% chance he calls a bet like $2.65. You can see that I make ~$3.32 factored with the shove vs. ~$1.99 factored with the "reasonable" bet. The shove makes 13BB more profit!

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    2. @lightning u were already a dick when u waited forever to act. @the poker meister in my opinion a fish is someone who thinks they will win online. online sucks. its only should be played to have a chance to play extremely low stakes non holdem games or a $1.10 to $3.50 sng because live tournies in casinos u cannot finish in 90 minutes like u can a 1 table sng online. i do it in bed before i sleep but certainly dont ever play $10 in a holdem cash game. i dont trust online any more than i would trust a dealer whose hand holding and dealing from a double deck BJ game instead of a shoe.

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