tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post7425285470050486270..comments2023-12-01T14:39:41.613-05:00Comments on Just the facts... a low stakes poker blog: What would you do? #117 - Overpair facing flop shove and flop callThe Poker Meisterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-22107782075669791412010-06-09T09:08:40.808-04:002010-06-09T09:08:40.808-04:00Loretta- Normally, I'd be check / raising the ...Loretta- Normally, I'd be check / raising the flop but given the action I'm facing, I don't think I can fold the BTN raise, but I definitely don't want to get it all in in this spot either. However, what I should have considered is the fact that stacks are already set up to go in by the turn, given the pot size if the UTG+1 flats (the pot would be around $20).The Poker Meisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-69741571699869329602010-06-08T22:21:21.666-04:002010-06-08T22:21:21.666-04:00just bet the flopjust bet the flopLoretta8https://www.blogger.com/profile/15050089299113194634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-75908156541700861912010-06-07T14:36:30.217-04:002010-06-07T14:36:30.217-04:00While I do find it bizzare that UTG+1 showed up wi...While I do find it bizzare that UTG+1 showed up with 34o let's be clear on a few things:<br /><br />1) Villain is a 20/7 suggesting that he only raises 1/3rd of the pots he enters. This means he HAS to see a lot of flops and is probably not positionally aware. While it's still hard to conceive why he would play 34o from UTG+1 when a UTG has opened for pot, we must remember that this omgitsjoshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01140998827175041379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-65952878913152434732010-06-07T14:09:37.567-04:002010-06-07T14:09:37.567-04:00I'm also kinda shocked that I didn't see a...I'm also kinda shocked that I didn't see a 3bet from the BTN holding an overpair as well - where he not only did not 3bet me PF, but was willing to call a stack off with his overpair on the flop... If I had shoved PF, would he have called me too? What difference does his hand make PF as opposed to flop+ if he's going to stack off any under card board?The Poker Meisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-84203985367191091502010-06-07T13:43:23.903-04:002010-06-07T13:43:23.903-04:00I'm playing mainly 25NL - not much squeezing g...I'm playing mainly 25NL - not much squeezing going on there.<br /><br />One of the problems is that some of the players are SO bad (I played on a table with an 80/16 yesterday), that they will call most preflop raises, and THEN call the squeeze also. And now you've got a bloated pot that you don't want to lose, holding A8 (or whatev).<br /><br />Once I have a player this bad at my matt taghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08082969194551315973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-57411189290003465392010-06-07T13:39:38.732-04:002010-06-07T13:39:38.732-04:00It's just weird that a 20/7 would overcall wit...It's just weird that a 20/7 would overcall with 34o in UTG+1 pre flop... Even 34s is weird. 45s or 56s or even 45o or 56o give so many more straight possibilities if you're determined to overcall, but 34o? You really need to hit that flop perfectly [like he did] in order to get paid there. The question is: why make that kind of move when you're just setting yourself up for a The Poker Meisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-52233259160828845042010-06-07T12:56:47.542-04:002010-06-07T12:56:47.542-04:00WTF? Over call [first in] with 43o? LOL!!!
They...<i>WTF? Over call [first in] with 43o? LOL!!!</i><br /><br />They say there's no accounting for taste, and, I guess, there's no accounting for what donks will play.Memphis MOJOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653631347560307425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-42807672777953497652010-06-07T11:00:56.687-04:002010-06-07T11:00:56.687-04:00total guessing game. you could be up against 7s a...total guessing game. you could be up against 7s and 9s here, or 78 and TT, or a set of 5s and a set of 6s. I think I would assume one of these two guys has hit a set and let it go.<br /><br />NOTE: I wrote this before reading result (yay me). 34 is funny, and the shove is unusual, but it's also kind of ingenious on this board because of all the pocket overpairs that will have trouble matt taghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08082969194551315973noreply@blogger.com