tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post2557938637952736129..comments2023-12-01T14:39:41.613-05:00Comments on Just the facts... a low stakes poker blog: When they give away their hand...The Poker Meisterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-26631494018415478492014-12-23T08:40:06.161-05:002014-12-23T08:40:06.161-05:00The JJ hand is an unbelievable joke. As with mostl...The JJ hand is an unbelievable joke. As with mostly every single hand you post on here, you played it like a monkey. A "very tight" player raises pre, c-bets the all-undercard flop, and then slow-calls a shove on the flop? And your read of these facts is that he is behind JJ? Oh -- because he paused before he called the shove!<br /><br />You are a grade A moron, and this is why you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-18348461611939946242014-12-22T16:55:02.526-05:002014-12-22T16:55:02.526-05:00I see some merit to Brian's comment. I was thi...I see some merit to Brian's comment. I was thinking that maybe he was taking his time to get your to overcall and get more money in the pot. Of course, if you had a read there, then go with your read. It could be based on things that you cannot articulate in a post or maybe didn't even realize at the time (i.e. subconscious cues).Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831176156389777158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-18171038742378806452014-12-19T11:41:28.290-05:002014-12-19T11:41:28.290-05:00Glad you see your rapier wit has returned Lightnin...Glad you see your rapier wit has returned Lightning!Lesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01221409127717174351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-17490298837400815532014-12-18T22:48:56.313-05:002014-12-18T22:48:56.313-05:00Are you sure you smelled weakness? Perhaps it was ...Are you sure you smelled weakness? Perhaps it was just a poker player who doesn't bathe. Not that we know anyone like that ...lightning36https://www.blogger.com/profile/05641629003610446976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-31338634039412131052014-12-18T17:54:07.662-05:002014-12-18T17:54:07.662-05:00I don't know whether I'd flat or shove the...I don't know whether I'd flat or shove there myself in this spot, but I do know that a strong tell in the hand was the huge pause and contemplation about what to do. This was the tell of "marginal hand, what to do what to do" not "how do I extract max value, while looking over at opponent's stack."The Poker Meisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-658295474378319162014-12-18T16:26:51.807-05:002014-12-18T16:26:51.807-05:00Not sure of stack sizes but i would almost always ...Not sure of stack sizes but i would almost always flat AA/KK to the c/r if I was original raiser. I don't want you to fold.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02421856454182439468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-42183481324232465722014-12-18T09:03:06.706-05:002014-12-18T09:03:06.706-05:00Yeah - that could have been a reason was he was af...Yeah - that could have been a reason was he was afraid of the flopped set. However, I think all hands I've ever seen play out like that have the original raiser shove his super strong QQ+ hands - even JJ+ hands to close out action against the in position caller (i.e. me). If he re-ships here, I think I have to fold. Since he pauses for so long and finally just calls the additional $46 on The Poker Meisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-45162609857547503502014-12-17T17:22:01.406-05:002014-12-17T17:22:01.406-05:00ooooooh i feel ya,brother. sorry i didnt xplain my...ooooooh i feel ya,brother. sorry i didnt xplain my self well. i was trying to say the reason .he was tanking was he thought u or other player flopped the set. angerisagifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01945967112589502437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-13502268833921456582014-12-17T14:03:24.757-05:002014-12-17T14:03:24.757-05:00I also realized, I'm missing positions - I was...I also realized, I'm missing positions - I was in the CO, tight player was in early position and the bad player was in the blinds.The Poker Meisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-67328064520867361262014-12-17T14:02:15.109-05:002014-12-17T14:02:15.109-05:00Agreed - and I'd reraise JJ against a player l...Agreed - and I'd reraise JJ against a player like what you describe above who would raise 22-88 from that position and flat the check / raise. However, this is a tight player - and his total pause and tanking is such a strong signal of a weak hand.<br /><br />Also, I acknowledge the bad player can show up with a set here, but what is the point on c/r'ing all in on a dry board. If he The Poker Meisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-25235237827512353642014-12-17T13:46:48.155-05:002014-12-17T13:46:48.155-05:00i too, usually just call preflop others raises whe...i too, usually just call preflop others raises when i have JJTony Bigcharleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14505857211799064393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-20508381638803334152014-12-17T13:13:38.552-05:002014-12-17T13:13:38.552-05:00sweeeeeeeeeet hand,bro. as far knowing/thinking th...sweeeeeeeeeet hand,bro. as far knowing/thinking that his hand is not KK/QQ/AA. if he is tight player or any player sometimes u get married to a hand even if the board is dry like rainbow/unders bcuz u cant believe this can b a losing hand with that board plus no1 reraised him preflop., for example u flatted with JJ ,so u could hit trips. it is reasonable to assume that some1 would flat with angerisagifthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01945967112589502437noreply@blogger.com