tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post2273220197336428563..comments2023-12-01T14:39:41.613-05:00Comments on Just the facts... a low stakes poker blog: Craziness during WSOP at the 'Shoe and a hand historyThe Poker Meisterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-31608374106872078192018-05-11T11:15:26.089-04:002018-05-11T11:15:26.089-04:00If there is room to improve how you played the han...If there is room to improve how you played the hand, I think its on the flop. I think a check is in order. There are too many players in the hand to expect everyone to fold to a $45 bet, and anyone who calls a $45 bet in that situation has you beat most of the time (save for stubborn pocket pairs). You mention that you planned to check the turn for pot control, but I think the flop is where you Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831176156389777158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-72399123726332407362018-05-10T09:52:49.803-04:002018-05-10T09:52:49.803-04:00I tend to agree with you; I won’t be happy folding...I tend to agree with you; I won’t be happy folding the river but I think it’s a “discipline fold” as they sayThe Poker Meisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-50005796253927385342018-05-09T23:54:47.813-04:002018-05-09T23:54:47.813-04:00I should not have included the 2 on the river for ...I should not have included the 2 on the river for a shove since 4-5 was a possible hand from the start. I think it does open up your river calling range but not on a river shove. If it was check-check on the turn, then his river bet of ~$120 you can call. But when he leads $75 turn and then shoves $340 river, it's time to get out of his way.Acehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02817046099646546543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-85992889097619860372018-05-09T23:36:13.922-04:002018-05-09T23:36:13.922-04:00Either way, every card except for a 9 turns his ha...Either way, every card except for a 9 turns his hand into a bluff, no? I do indeed think I have to fold the river if I don't catch my straight, but that's why I'm wondering if it's bad play to call the turn. I argue that if he can shove A9 there, then he likely can shove KK, QQ, JJ as well. Doesn't that open up my river calling range to his shove?The Poker Meisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-13763186880787867702018-05-09T23:31:51.151-04:002018-05-09T23:31:51.151-04:00Yeah; it was a nice session for me. I'm still...Yeah; it was a nice session for me. I'm still confounded by the hand, but maybe I need to take for what it was: I got lucky at the end, but the guy WAY overplayed his own hand, and took a weird line to get there... Also, I take away that not all bluff catchers can catch bluffs - if the river is indeed a blank, my A4 bluff catcher can't beat his A9 bluff shove...The Poker Meisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289059101454598371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-53083080658897101162018-05-09T22:06:01.985-04:002018-05-09T22:06:01.985-04:00"He snap shoves $340. I therefore argue that..."He snap shoves $340. I therefore argue that his river shove turns his hand into a bluff not a value bet."<br /><br />I agree that it looks like a bluff. From his point of view: he bets $20 and you call. Flop he checks and you bet $45. I don't think you'd lead with 8-9 or 8-4 on a A-3-6. You would do this with A-x, 3-3, 6-6, or 4-5. A-J+ or 7-7+ you bet pre, so if it'sAcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02817046099646546543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9142521684451555818.post-59852708260221864952018-05-09T19:54:44.047-04:002018-05-09T19:54:44.047-04:00I'm with you, PM. I find this happens a lot a...I'm with you, PM. I find this happens a lot at 1/2 1/3; you think you can range someone based on their pre-flop action, but they may not be good enough poker players to be playing in accordance with the range they SHOULD be playing (awkwardly worded, I know).<br /><br />There's no way he should be bumping that pot pre from the BB with A9o. You had him ranged as large pair (I do think seattleirishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11592850961602955834noreply@blogger.com